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Latex Zebra wrote on 22-03-2017 04:03 PM

I work with an ex copper and he says that they have been warned that these hit and run attacks are impossible to prevent or plan for. It's just damage limitation.

Anyone could steal a lorry and be driving down the pavement before someone even realises the lorry has ben nicked.
Once the vehicle is moving, what can you do? Shoot it with an RPG?



Yep, very little preparation and ideal for a lone wolf with no communications to intercept.

I have to wonder why it hasn't happened already - today's attack doesn't seem to be aimed at high numbers of people (choose a busy area) nor Parliament (don't drive down the pavement beforehand).



tbf the location itself sends a message, I imagine sometimes it's not just about the body count.

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I posted that after 1 reporter said that the London Eye had been stopped but people were still in the pods.

Cue snipers picking them off....



You have played way too much COD



hehe, although I aint no damn camper!

And as I posted that reply a reporter has just re-iterated it!

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tbf the location itself sends a message, I imagine sometimes it's not just about the body count.



Good point, it's certainly disrupted London and the Scottish and Welsh Assemblies have been suspended for the day.

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Good point, it's certainly disrupted London and the Scottish and Welsh Assemblies have been suspended for the day.



I really doubt that anyone cares about that tbh


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Good point, it's certainly disrupted London and the Scottish and Welsh Assemblies have been suspended for the day.



I really doubt that anyone cares about that tbh




Well the Scottish Parliament were debating the referendum....

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Well the Scottish Parliament were debating the referendum....



Not international news to be fair.


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It's times like these when I wonder if our police are a bit too trusting, as compared to US cops who "shoot first and ask questions later".

It seems the attacker was seen "beating a policeman with what looked like a stick", and it was only when he disengaged and started running towards the doors pf Parliament that 2 plain clothes officers shot him.

Should cops have the "right" to shoot if someone breaks into Parliament grounds?

Or should they continue to wait until they're sure they have a verified target before taking a shot?

In essence, this comes down to the UK's approach of "individual responsibility" versus the USA's "qualified immunity" stance.

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It's times like these when I wonder if our police are a bit too trusting, as compared to US cops who "shoot first and ask questions later".

It seems the attacker was seen "beating a policeman with what looked like a stick", and it was only when he disengaged and started running towards the doors pf Parliament that 2 plain clothes officers shot him.

Should cops have the "right" to shoot if someone breaks into Parliament grounds?

Or should they continue to wait until they're sure they have a verified target before taking a shot?

In essence, this comes down to the UK's approach of "individual responsibility" versus the USA's "qualified immunity" stance.



Damned if they do, damned if they don't. The Stockwell shooting has made our armed forces a bit less trigger happy...

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