Matt V2.0
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 17728 - Threads: 847 Location: Surrey
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| Quin. wrote on 25-04-2017 11:17 AM
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| Latex Zebra wrote on 25-04-2017 11:13 AM
Not sure what all this nonsense is about Farron given he has factually spoken out in support for gay equality. His voting record shows his support as well. There is a good article on the (yes I know) Huffington Post about this.
More right wing media BS designed to distract from the real issues.
Not sure how UKIP having any measure of power is a good thing when it comes to Brexit. Surely they want the hardest one possible.
As a remainer I am now committed to the fact we are leaving but I want a nice clean and friendly brexit. Let's not piss on our own doorstep.
The most important result this GE is exactly that, that the Tories make no new ground and ideally lose some. It will prove that this country is not totally onboard with their mission to destroy the NHS/Schools/etc and that it's pretty much only Labour looking so unelectable that is keeping them in power.
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I'm not sure they will have any semblance of power, however they will take votes from others, with a strong track record of taking conservative votes. They are also strong against labour in some areas unfortunately in others so while not getting into those seats themselves they make it easier for others to get in.
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^ this
UKIP could take Conservative seats in the north which will reduce their majority. If people adopt similar tactics where Labour or Lib Dems have a chance of winning, that could result in Conservatives not winning the landslide they expect.
I posted about May's Maidenhead constituency, see below. Let's say 50% remainers vote tactically, against her. That's 22,000, many of which will come off her 35,000 majority. Add 5-15,000 who voted Lib Dem in the 2010 and 2015 elections and it could be pretty tight...
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| Matt wrote on 20-04-2017 04:54 PM
True, if Corbyn does as badly as the polls predict then either he'll be gone, or Labour will be dead. Or both.
But let's not forget how wrong the polls have been recently - they failed to predict the Conservative win in 2015, or Brexit and Trump in 2016. Sure they weren't quite so wrong, but I'm waiting for a bit of organisation on strategic voting to really shake things up...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19_yf4RL133fBKscvSbID4eRKwztzY9KSI_2BMaI1bU8/htmlview?usp=embed_facebook&sle=true#
I even wondered how May will fare, what if she loses her seat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidenhead_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
https://www3.rbwm.gov.uk/info/200131/elections_and_voting/1151/election_results_june_2016
May got 65% with 35,453 votes (turnout 53,855), but Maidenhead had 81,000+ turnout for the EU referendum with 44,000+ voting to remain.
That's going to make things very interesting
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The problem with this will be people getting organised which does seem to be happening: https://www.tactical2017.com/
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