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| mmm pie wrote on 27-08-2012 01:23 PM
Hi All, I wanted to prompt a discussion around the psy trance scene and get some other views on it.
The psy scene differs from others in that most music scenes are focused entirely on having a dance/rave up and getting inebriated with your particular tonic with your mates. The psy scene however, always pushes healing, art, veggie food, workshops and general discussion around mind body spirit etc. Modern day acid culture basically.
What I want to ask you the ravers is;
is there anything useful people can take from this?
Is it positive or harmful?
Do you think it's just part of the way the scene is marketed?
Mayan calendar? Significant?
World to end in 2012?
Global consciousness shift?
What do you think of the babble written on event adverts?
My two pennies worth - I spent quite a lot of time in the psy scene up to around 2007, I enjoyed the music and went to many festivals all over the world which were geared towards psychedelia. The scene was fun, but I found that some of the workshops I sat through at these places and the messages they pushed were, frankly, completely ridiculous. I met a lot of pious people who talked a lot of shit about space and time and, especially, concioussness.
I stopped going out on the psy scene completely disillusioned with what I considered to be a lot of people peddling a lot of bullshit.
It seemed to me like there were a lot of lost and confused souls lapping up this bullcrap / drinking the kool- aid, whilst out of their skulls on trips and many people reading meaning and significance into things which any normal mind would consider either insignificant, or just plain old coincidence!
What do you think? Are the hippies onto something? Am I completely wrong in my assessment? Is it harmless or are those who get sucked in to the psy scene and it's messages going to be worse off after surfing their synapses for too long?
I'm hoping this will spark some debate and interested to hear what you all think?
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I guess some people were genuinely into meditation, yoga, tai-chi or whatever. People do have real changes of consciousness where self-made perceptions of space and time change, slow down and distort.
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mmm pie
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| voodoobass wrote on 27-08-2012 02:07 PM
I dunno, you say they spout claptrap about conciousness but then you use the expression 'lost souls' so it looks like you either do have your own differing ideas on conciousness, or else you're coming at it from a religious angle somehow.
Yes, the psy scene does have a lot of hippie bumpf round it and like any other sub/counter-culture it will always attract 'lifestylers', the very existence of such a scene is because it's an extreme opposite to the weekday world of suits & ties, an antithesis, if you will. Its extreme colourful and 'out there' nature contrasts with the dreary and mundane trappings of the nine to five.
If you're worried about people whose 'life path' has been affected.... well, that's another strange thing to say. Do people have a pre-ordained life path? Is dropping out of the rat race to live in a yurt during festival season making enough money off selling hash truffles and hand-woven llama hair blankets over the summer to be able to avoid having to die of boredom in an office 9-5 really such a bad thing?
However I don't really see anything new amongst the psy-trance hippies, tbh the OPs question just reminds me of the ranting about 'New Age Travellers' back in the day. Except the music was worse then because you had to put up with The Levellers playing everywhere.
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Fair enough, you raise some good points. If people are happy, then who am I to judge. Maybe that's all that's important? Who cares if your views or beliefs are right or wrong! And sure, job/money/mortgage isn't everyone's priority.
Also I do think it's very important to have a counterculture to the suit and tie lifestyle.
I suppose by lost souls I meant people who cane acid every weekend and spout the headspinning claptrap, squat scene was full of them. Didn't mean anything religious at all!
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mmm pie
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| Mark Day wrote on 27-08-2012 02:35 PM
May i ask how/why you got involved in the psy scene in the first place?
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yes sure, i was into hard house and what was coined 'nu skool breaks' at the time. I went round a friend of a friends house and he was playing Astrix's Artcore album. I loved it immediately. I know Astrix aint cool these days but when Artcore came out, everybody was playing it at every psy party
Then came the antiworld parties, then Digital Hive and the underground. I was really into it for a while and must say the digital hive parties back in 05/06 (roughly) really were awesome fun for me. Good times!
As I said, after a while I got a bit disillusioned with the whole thing but it was fun for a while and I still enjoy some of the music. And as you say, everybody on the scene was really nice
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